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Hello and welcome to another episode of Underdogs, Bootstrappers, Game Changers.
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And boy, I've got a treat for you today.
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I've got a good friend here once again, Dr Shell.
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Hello everybody, Thanks for having me.
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I'm happy to be here.
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So Dr Shell is a badass in so many ways and she's number one longtime mixed, longtime mixed martial artists.
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Currently number one contender ranked number four uh in the world for bare knuckle fighting championships, bkfc, which is a professional bare knuckle uh boxing league, which is something, uh, conor McGregor just picked up yes, Conor McGregor is a co-owner, and it's one of the fastest growing combat sports and it's, it's uh, it's a really exciting sport.
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It's one of the fastest growing combat sports and it's a really exciting sport.
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It's one of those ones that you don't have to be a fighter to understand.
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It's go, go, go from the start.
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So Dr Shell is a bare knuckle boxer and doctor.
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She's obviously a doctor and her specialty is around hormonal health, blood work.
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Everything that kind of gets the race car ready to drive right is in your body.
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And she's also a wife to a cop who's out in the field every day, and three kids.
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Yep correct Three kids, nine seven and a three-year-old boy.
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So you heard all that right.
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Dr Shell is all three Underdog bootstrapper, game changer because she also owns her own clinic, and so I really wanted to have a conversation with Dr Shell today because I know how important fitness has been in my life.
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Some of you in the audience know my undergrads in biochemistry, huge fitness nut, been involved with the mixed martial arts world for a long time myself, weightlifting world, lots of different hobbies around sport and fitness and I think it's so important for business, and so Dr Shell and I have some interesting conversations, and that's what I want to help you with.
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Today is we're going to talk about fitness, because this avatar that you have to navigate life with it is important, it's strong, it is important, it's healthy.
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It is important that your stress levels are maintained and with business and you don't have any sort of fitness routine, it's like I tell people all the time, it's like you are going to need it for the stress, the fitness is going to be imperative because otherwise they can pick up a drink.
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And if your way in dealing with stress is to pick up a drink and you get into business, you're going to be picking up a drink all the time, or you can pick up a weight, right.
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Absolutely Positive outlets are very important for anyone who's trying to achieve great things or, you know, kind of fill their plate in life.
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And so you know mental.
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You know mental strength is a thing and you know it's hard to is, is a, is a thing and and um, you know it's hard to practice that without some sort of physical challenge.
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It it kind of goes hand in hand.
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When you're, when you're physically challenging yourself, um, that that really is when the, the mental uh gymnastics are done and and mental strength is made.
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Yeah, and where we're going to go.
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We're going to go to kind of base level today, and so some of you folks that been into fitness, I think you're going to get a ton out of this conversation.
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But also I want to make sure to get down to a level where, if you haven't started yet, you know it's cause I, one of my goals in this world is to build more kindhearted badasses, and part of that is we have to get you an avatar worthy of doing that.
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You know I get people that come up to me in the gym all the time, especially in the locker room, and they're like your, your goals, you know my fitness and stuff like that, and the thing is any of you could have what I have as far as fitness is concerned.
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Anybody, anybody could have what Dr Shell has.
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I absolutely feel that I feel that, uh, in in everything that I that I've done, even getting into mixed martial arts, I was, I was kind of thrown in there and I didn't have any training, I just fought.
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You know, 12 days later, um, you know, and um, you know it, it wasn't met with the biggest support.
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A lot of people are kind of like who is she?
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And uh, you know, I was trying to to influence, you know, and encourage all women to get into.
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It's kind of like, look at me like I didn't do it.
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You know little did I know that that um kind of attitude was going to be met with.
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Um, you know, you got the basics in line, you're fit and you're healthy.
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Um, you know there's a lot of fitness competitions that that we can do and, and you know, I bounced back and forth from competing in in fitness, uh, competition shows in in the bikini division and uh, you know, I, I, I qualified many times for the nationals and um, and um, yeah, I mean, I, I, I don't know why I got into bikini, but it's more so.
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Just, you compete and you strength train in the gym and you want to see where you stand, you want to compete in something, and so that competitive drive, you know, kind of got me in the door for fitness competitions, which you know aren't necessarily my thing.
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It's kind of out of my place to be in heels and hair and makeup.
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So you know, that's always a challenge that I try to get through when I do those competitions.
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But you know it's, it's totally opposite when I'm fighting, when I'm fighting, I'm, I'm, you know I'm, I'm calm the whole time.
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It really is my, um, my, my, my safe place and my, my place where I get to challenge myself and and that's um, it's um, it's hard to explain and and uh, and mixed martial arts is, is really the ultimate physical and mental challenge and it's a chess match.
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That's what I love exactly.
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It is a mental chess.
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A mental chess match, you have to be one step ahead of your opponent.
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You really have to be in tune with their body language.
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It's, it's a lot more than just going over the technique, and so there's a lot more um to having fighter iq than just going through the motions.
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It's so nice to have like backup plan too.
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Right.
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It's like, if you're like I boxers, you know like you're a bare knuckle boxer.
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It's like you have to be incredible at just boxing, you know it's like.
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But if you're kicking my butt boxing, I still have options in the mixed martial arts world, right.
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Exactly, and you know what, like I, my, um, my background is in MMA.
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I've had, gosh, I think, maybe 18 or so MMA fights, and so I'm very experienced in mixed martial arts and a lot of Muay Thai, and it's one of those things that my strength was always my one too which is you know the basics of what's needed in a boxing fight or really any fight, and you know that that that came very naturally as, as as a background in in tennis, I feel like just the swing of the racket, uh, came naturally for my one too, and um, yeah, it's just, uh, you know, owning on the basics for any competition or, or, um, athletics that you do is is very important, um, that's, and, and, and that's what, that's what I say for really anything is you, you, you got to own the basics, even even in health, it's, it's, you got to get the basics in line Yep Business too.
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It's like you know.
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It's like everybody overlooks the basics.
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It's like what's the trick, what's the hey, what's the miracle pill today that we're going to take to go out and be fit?
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It's like the basics, it's always miracle pill or miracle workout.
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You know like some some people will be, you know, doing just crazy workouts and stuff, but and and those can be fun and exert yourself in different ways, but for ultimate, you know kind of kind of strength training it's.
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I've been doing curls, you know, for 15 years.
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You know there's certain exercises that are, you know, of course, like you know squats, deadlifts, the.
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You know the, the foundational lifts.
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Let's get to that actually, because I want to talk a little bit about the way you and I I'll get involved in the conversation there too, like the way we learned to fitness right.
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Tell me the way you learned fitness.
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How did you like figure this fitness thing out?
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Yeah, you know what I?
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Um I, I was really really blessed with my my very first job.
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Uh, during high school, I worked at a nutrition store and so I was in the environment as a teenager, seeing these adults who were very in shape and they were interested in their health and they were using their protein every weekend or, you know, every month, and you know are coming in to purchase protein every month and you know they're on these supplements and and just just very fit people and it's it's adults who were just working out every day.
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And so, you know, I I was very lucky to be exposed to that environment and and then myself started doing like protein and you know fish oil pills and things like that.
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And, um, you know that's what initially inspired me like hey, like maybe I should go, you know, try to do some exercise, um, and and kind of get back into athletics.
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I had a background in in childhood in tennis and sports and things like that.
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So I was athletic as a kid, but I kind of lost it in high school and things like that.
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So I was athletic as a kid, but I kind of lost it in high school.
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Um and um, yeah, it's, it's um something that, uh, I kind of just pushed myself into going and what I initially did was anything that I was comfortable with and I did cross country and track in school.
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So basically what I do is I just turned the treadmill on on flat and um, I would just run, I'd run.
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For you know, I just listened to my music and you know I'd run a couple of miles Um and um you know, and that would be it A lot of women don't realize that they should pick up some weights, right?
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You know what, and and for the longest time I didn't realize that.
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You know I was working at the nutrition store and you know a lot of them are.
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You know the bikini models they're on the cover models, their fitness models that are, you know, obviously on on supplements and things like that.
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So initially you know that's what I started going into and you know, then I competed just for fun, to kind of see where I stood against you know, fit competitors and I did the bikini competition and you know I won and my goal was kind of like dang, like I, I, I have potential, like maybe I could, you know, go for.
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You know national qualifications and things like that.
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And so you know that was just my goal because you know, competitive drive is something that, um, it changed my changes, my training, the way that, the way that I think and the way that I um approach my training and, um, there's no doubt, it makes it more like exactly.
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Um, there's no doubt it makes it more like exactly.
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There's something about any type of competition that really drives me.
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It's not like, um, you know, and it's not an, it's not a negative pressure in any way either.
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It's just I love to compete and and, um, I've, I've, I've really always been like that.
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I've always wanted to compete.
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You know, I had an older brother and I just, I always wanted to, to, to, to, to try to be better and and, and always, always be against someone who's bigger and stronger.
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And just, the challenge is, is something about that?
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That's what I like.
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And so, um, you know, in in strength training, yes, you can see your body change and you're getting stronger, um, but I really like the goals of, of, um, you know, trying to get it all, all throughout the body.
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It encourages you to do squats and not just, do you know, shoulders and upper body and and, uh, you know, you're working on your whole body.
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And the second the second I learned about weights was the second that I really saw my body transforming.
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Yeah, tell them about the efficiencies around.
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You know, it's not just lifting away, it's not just putting on muscle, cause that's what women fear of Like.
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Talk to, uh, talk to me about the efficiencies of strength training.
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Yeah.
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So I mean I mean wait, wait, wait.
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What do you mean?
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The fact that when you're lifting weights, when you're putting on muscle, what that does for body fat.
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I mean so I mean the way that muscle works is that muscle is highly metabolic and it's something that it's going to be burning calories and helping us with our glucose storage and production and usage, and the more muscle that you have to, the more insulin receptors that you have.
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So there's a lot going on under the hood that we can benefit from.
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Muscle.
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Muscle really does dictate our metabolism and a lot of us, you know, kind of forget about that, or or you know, maybe haven't had that discussion to learn that.
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I certainly didn't know that for, like I said, for the longest time I was dealing with customers who had a lot of muscle and I didn't realize that they were strength training and you know, until we realized that as women, how important muscle is, uh, for longevity and our uh, you know, our energy, our health, our mood um, just the way that our body, just the way that our body works and how hard it is, as we age, to keep that muscle.
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Um, you know, we, we, we got to take advantage of our youth and and you, your strength.
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Train now, because it only gets harder as we age.
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There's a historic nature to bustle too.
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It's like I'm sure you heard this like rolling jiu-jitsu and stuff.
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It's like the old man strength, you know.
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It's like people actually tease me about having that these days, the old man strength, and there is, there's a certain memory to muscle, and so that's why the earlier you start it, in my opinion like the the more you can get it back easier, the more it lasts, you know it's like.
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But for women too I want to bring your point home.
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You know I tend to do that on this show is like uh, adding some strength training to your workout will also have efficiencies in fat burning and you'll look better.
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Absolutely.
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If our ultimate goal is weight loss and fat burning, cardio is is good, it's important, it warms us up, it does burn some calories, but, but the ultimate metabolic boost is going to be from building muscle.
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Um, and, and I always say, like, the cool thing about building muscle is not only are you built, burning calories, uh, during that workout, you're now burning calories when you go home and when you're eating, when you're sleeping, you're constantly a fat burning machine.
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When you're building that muscle.
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And for for, for women, um, you know, I commonly come across the fear that we'll get too bulky and um, you gotta work hard to be bulky.
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It really is.
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I've been working my whole life to get bulky and you know, when I lean out for fights I can look pretty shredded and pretty jacked, but normally it's it's.
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It's not something like it's, just not something that I see in my future ever getting to a point.
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Um, you know, everywhere I reach my goals you know it is something that, um, yes, women can get bulky, but you, you, you, it's not something that we can really do, naturally, let's, let's talk to them.
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Um, I want to back up a little bit.
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Let's talk to them about how to get started.
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I'll weigh in a little bit and I want you to pick up after me.
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Um, I started, um, lifting weights by getting a book called strength training anatomy and in fact, like, uh, I am going to buy somebody that book that's watching the episode.
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So if you're the first one to put uh something in the comments or reach out to me first, we'll make it an Easter egg hunt.
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Whoever I hear from first or see from first, I'm going to buy you this book and it's called strength training anatomy and what I love about it is, um, it will not only show you the exercise but it also shows these color diagrams about the muscle, and it worked.
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And so, basically, I had read about like you should do.
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I can't remember at the time what the.
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It's always changing.
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We know like what's the recommendations and, depending on who you talk to, there's different recommendations.
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We know like what's the recommendations and, depending on who you talk to, there's different different recommendations.
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But at that time it was like three body parts.
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You know like uh, three, three sets, um, uh, 10 reps around there, depending on what you're trying to do.
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You know I'm going to leave it right at that.
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It gets more complex, right, but you basically the gist is you go in this book and you pick out a couple exercises for your back day, you know, for your, um, uh, leg day, that sort of stuff, and, um, I thought the book was invaluable and it really.
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It really does a good job of explaining, and that's how I learned to lift weights, was that?
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And then I picked up more stuff along the way.
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Did you have somebody that taught you how?
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you know what I did, and I was really, um, just sticking my nose into it.
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I just knew that I needed it.
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Um, like I said, I was just blessed to be able to be in that environment where it just kind of clicked in my brain Like this is you know something that, um, it looks like it's pretty important you know, these, these people are really healthy and that's what I want to be like.
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I want to be strong and confident, um and and no-transcript the treadmill.
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So I'd go every day run a couple of miles, you know, keep my head down and you know, they, they, they really have a strong, aesthetic looking body, like that is coming from from weights, like all all of them are doing.
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Actually, a lot of them are incredibly strong.
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A lot of those, those women, are really incredibly strong doing strength training as a, as a daily um incorporation into their, their, their workouts.
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But, um, uh, you know when, when I started incorporating, uh, weight training, eventually I, I picked I mean, I just Googled kind of you know top exercises for shoulders and that seemed to be one that you know I could hide in the corner and do the free weights Right.
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So I, I, I, quick, I learned a few exercises that I could comfortably do, you know, in whatever space in the gym, and I would add kind of one exercise on, you know, at a time, like as I became you know, you know good and comfortable at what I was doing, on at a time as I became good and comfortable at what I was doing, and I really did the same thing over time.
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I really am a fan of if you're uncomfortable, just baby steps and do the same thing every time, and consistency is very powerful when you're first starting out.
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That's one of the easiest ways to really see the results start to come to.
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You know and that's something I definitely wanted us to get to today too it's like it doesn't have to be.
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We're giving you the benefits of weightlifting and I think eventually, no matter what you do, you should add that to your routine.
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But it's like, start with it, like we both really like to get in the gym and hit the bag.
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You know like both of us really enjoy that.
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You hit pads with your coach, I'm sure you know, I with your coach, I'm sure you know I used to get in hit pads all the time.
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Uh, you know, it's like I train um long sword with my brother at a medieval um martial arts gym.
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You know it's like, and so like, think of things that are things you're interested in, right, and like then, you know like, step into the other stuff too, because, like we're talking about, it's like if you're out there and, let's say, boxing's your thing, or you know like dance or you know whatever, you'll eventually get to the point where I'd like to be a little bit better at this.
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And then, if you add the weightlifting, if you add a little bit of cardio to that, you will get better at it, right.
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Absolutely, and and the the whole point of longevity and preserving age is muscle.
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Muscle is what keeps us alive and, um, you know, no, no matter what sport you're doing, if there's no, um, resistance, uh training and involved in that, and we're not, um you know, building muscle, then then we should be trying to incorporate a little bit of strength training into to whatever our, our, sport is.
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And start by being just active.
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In some yoga, you know like it starts with being active and finding something you like and you'll stay with.
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And then please, for the love of the world, don't get the worst trainer on the planet.
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If you, if you get these trainers that kick your butt day one, you know it's like shame on them.
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You know it shouldn't be like that.
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It should be going in and going through the motions.
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That should be day one, that should be day two.
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And then, if you're can't find somebody that's going to be easygoing like that on you, please go in, just play with the machine rates, get this shrink training anatomy book, you know, just go through the motions and what you'll find.
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And anybody can go through the motions, right, it's not hard to go through the motions.
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And what you'll find is you'll get in the environment, right, you'll start to see other people, you'll start to be like you know what this is a little bit, I could do a little bit more than this and then you'll eventually find yourself stepping into it.
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I can't stand when I hear that a trainer or a person has kicked their own butt.
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You know, like day one.
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And they don't go back, right, yep, I mean I've heard trainers going too hard, Also, trainers going too light.
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Um, you know, I've I've had patients, you know, really struggling with weight loss and then when we, you know, get down to like what, what are you doing at the gym?
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And you know, I had one lady who the trainer, um, she recommended that she always needs to be talking, right, Because because otherwise, like, she gets too stressed out.
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So, you know, they they always had to be, you know, discussing, and, and you know, when I asked her about the intensity of her workout, it turned out that talking, you know, did take her concentration, um, you know, out of really mentally focusing into the workout itself.
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And you know, I find that myself too, it's something that, uh, you know, when you are working out, you, you do get the best benefits when your mind and your body is, is completely into it and connected.
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And, um, you know, sometimes distractions, even even in life distractions as well too, if our mind is elsewhere, um, you know, we, we don't get the best benefit of of that workout, and so that that's why I love a personal workout, to just zone in, just talk to yourself, talk positive to yourself and and and grow, and, and.
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Then, you know, after the gym, you know, deal with, deal with life problems, you know, stronger than you were coming in.
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I'm glad you went there because it starts with the way I said.
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You know.
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It's like it starts with finding something you enjoy, you know, and then getting a little bit more competitive at it even if it's personally, you know and then involve the weight lifting and stuff like that, um, slowly but surely, and then you'll get to the point where it's like you live for that extra right.
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It's like you see me in the gym and I actually get a lot of problems at my weightlifting gym.
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Uh, I get bullied on a little bit there because, like, I have a face at the gym and it's not a face against the world, it's a face against myself, right, it's like I'm getting through stuff that's stressing me out, and so I don't have a very pretty face and I stick to myself and I have headphones on and I'm in my own, other world.
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I listen to my instrumental music and I am conquering something at that moment.
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And you can see that in my training routine too.
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You know it's like, and you will get there right.
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It's like it starts with this, and then you'll get to the point where like this can be an amazing tool.
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And it starts with this, and then you'll get to the point where like this can be an amazing tool, and then, I don't know, personally, I get a, I'm a little sick.
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I guess I beg for the pain, like, and it's harder and harder to find it.
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You know, because once you get used to it, it's harder and harder to get there.
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Sometimes it's uncomfortable at first, but then you get to learn that.
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You know pain is how you get growth.
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You know like people can betray you or lie to you.
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There's a lot of things.
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You know someone, one of your best friends, can die one one morning.
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There's there's a lot of things that really hurt you in life.
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And, uh, the pain of the workout doesn't seem so bad, but it really does test your limits and it teaches you.
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You know one type of pain that you you can, um, handle Andable.
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It's.
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It's so helpful in so many ways, and especially for business.
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You're going to need it.
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It's a good outlet Most.
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I don't know anybody successful that doesn't have some sort of fitness in their life, you know it's.
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It's a discipline thing it's.
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It's so many levels you know it's important it's so important.
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I always wondered how in in medical school you know I was I was one of one of the few people who worked out, and it just makes you wonder.
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I mean, you know such smart how is that possible?
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They're such smart people you know, they're, they're so smart and they know how important exercise is.
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But you know, sometimes, even knowing about it, it um doesn't mean that you necessarily practice it or, um, you know, see it as something that that you need.
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So, um, it's, it's, it's.
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It's hard to understand that that um, that was a big issue I had in school is like I was, I was in a biochemistry track and I kept having professors that were overweight and that sort of stuff.
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I'm like, look, you know this stuff.
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You know it's like how can you be overweight?
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And I, actually there was one guy, he was like six, five probably, huge muscular guy and he ran this uh department that actually I later did research in because I'm like here's a biochemist, that practice, which he was a monster you know.
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And so, like I ended up, uh, um, working in a spider lab for a year, uh, studying amino acid content in spider silk, yeah, and it was.
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It was honestly mostly because this guy who was a biochemist PhD, like he was like what I thought you know a biochem should be, and that was somebody that like understood fitness and was into like fitness workouts, that sort of stuff.
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I like understanding it on a very molecular level.
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You know what's going on in my body.
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I really do.
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But I often say to that that, uh, fit people are going to be the ones who change the world.
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Fit people are the ones who are going to be, are are able to take care of their own health and handle their own businesses, and they're the ones who are like this is what's happening to me and this is what everyone else needs to do.
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So I think a lot of us are the empaths as well, too, and you know the big farmer and you know all the people who are, you know, not, you know, just thinking about themselves and things like that.
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I think they have a lot to worry about when, when fit people get into important positions.
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It's so important to have some fitness in your life for so many reasons.
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And you know, like here's the thing too, it's like there's a lot of kindhearted people in the world.