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Hello and welcome to underdogs, bootstrappers and game changers.
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This is for those of you that are starting with nothing and using business to change their stars, motivating people who disrupted industry standards.
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This is the real side of business.
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This isn't Shark Tank.
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My aim with this podcast is to take away some of the imaginary roadblocks that are out there.
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I want to help more underdogs, because underdogs are truly who change the world.
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It's for the person that wants it.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Underdogs, Bootstrappers and Game Changers.
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I'm so fortunate today, and so are you, to have my friend Zoe with me today.
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How are you doing, Zoe?
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Thank you for having me.
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I'm really excited.
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Tyler has been telling me all about everything really just your entire journey, the podcast and so I'm really honored to be here because, yeah, I just I just started telling my story more openly and realizing how important it is to do that, so I'm excited to share it and share some things that maybe can help others, Cause I wish that I had more of that when I was going through it.
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So I'm happy to be here.
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No, yeah, it's like, um, underdogs.
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I really it can be hard sometimes too.
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It's like cause I need to vet people, uh to have them on the show, because I'm very protective of you.
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I can't accidentally have a course seller that sells something that's horrible for you or something like that, right, and so I take some time vetting people.
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Um, and I've known Zoe for a while and I uh I think amazing things about her.
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Um, I went through a process where I wasn't telling my story to the world either, and I've begun doing it and my life has improved exponentially because of it.
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And uh it's not uncommon for somebody to drop in my DMS and say something you said last week saved my life.
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Yeah, and so that's when we realized we have to do these things.
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And one thing recently you made a post about giving plasma away.
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And I'd like you to, if you can, weigh in on that story.
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You made a post about giving plasma.
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Times were hard.
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Could you tell me a little bit about that?
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Yeah, so I was kicked out of my house.
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I grew up in the south side of Chicago and my parents also out of my house.
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I grew up in the South side of Chicago and, uh, my parents also turned off my phone and so I was just kind of stuck because there was, um.
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I couldn't get to the next step without, like, simply, a phone.
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You know, luckily, um, I had a friend who I could stay with, so I wasn't homeless by any means as far as actually being without a home, but a phone and communication in this world is really important.
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Yeah.
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And so I just collected my resources and tried to figure out.
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I was always doing things like trying to babysit or rake leaves or shovel snow, all of those things, but I found out you could get $40 for donating plasma, um, and so I did that too so that I could collect or so that I could turn my phone back on Um and then I could apply to jobs because I'd have somewhere that they could call me back.
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So, uh, yeah, I did that until you could only go every whatever two days until cause you, you give your, you give your blood, and then they take all the plasma out and then put the blood blood back in and then your plasma regenerates and then you could do it again.
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So that's what I yeah, I did to like pay my phone bill.
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Yeah, I went through that too.
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It's like giving away plasma to um to eat Right.
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And underdogs.
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We're going to get to Zoe success story too.
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It's just like I want to show you another path you know, and then uh, on another person that's been the underdog and also like wait until you hear what she's up to.
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But sometimes it starts with giving blood for a meal right, you know.
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And then like one thing that's funny is when I used to go in there, I'd look at the people that were giving away the blood.
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And.
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I remember this one lady even asked.
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She was in there basically because she thought they gave you an STD test before that, so she was only there for the STD test.
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She was pretty rough looking and I was like thinking to myself like, as I'm looking around at the other people that are in there and I'm sure you saw this too it's like my blood's going to be like superhuman compared to like the people that are in here.
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Yeah yeah, it's definitely very scary Like uh, I didn't want to be there, obviously it's sketchy folks.
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It's sketchy and like being a woman and like, uh, there's a lot of people.
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Well, the good thing is they do drug tests and that's to be pan, so like at least everyone's kind of like clean you know, or if it's their second time or more.
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If you saw them, you wouldn't want this blood though.
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Right, yeah, and um, plasma, everyone needs a plasma or people need the plasma.
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But I sometimes I think too.
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I look around like in's world where the underdogs?
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Today there is so much other opportunities that you don't have to go do that.
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Totally.
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Because I'm like I wish there was, I would have went on, or if I could figure out how to Uber Eats or all of those things or walk a dog.
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Sure.
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All the websites you can go on dog walk and stuff but plasma.
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It was the thing to do, I don't know.
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It was just like there wasn't as many like opportunities that you could just like go on a website and you know, I agree a hundred percent.
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We were in really rough times.
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My brothers and I and I remember my brother had made this uh, in woodshop he made a bedside table and we sold it for like 60 bucks, you know, and like, and that was like an amazing amount of money, or like we couldn't.
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We had a period of time and we actually had went homeless for a little while and, um, we're living in the desert here in Phoenix and uh, finally, like, we're able to move into a place and we had no money for food.
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My little brother happened to have this, uh, millennium Falcon Lego set and we sold that online and I, I think it got us like $300.
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That thing fed us for like weeks.
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Now.
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Now my brothers have amazing houses in Scottsdale.
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One's a PhD, very successful, and so now we get to joke around about these things.
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You know, we bought actually the millennium Falcon Lego set for my brother for Christmas, like again two Christmases ago or something like that.
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Well, I was um, I would did that too.
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I basically sold everything that anyone would buy until I could.
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Just, you know, so you could get ahead.
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And uh I was just talking to someone about this that like, uh, it almost feels like once you get going, like those are the hardest parts, but like, once you get going and you get a little bit of, like consistent income, it's so much easier, like I almost feel like it's unfair that like, once you have a little bit of money, it's so much easier to make more money, but like you can't really do that unless you have the work ethic and so doing, going through all those hard steps and then, like now, being able to put it back into myself and into the world.
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It's sometimes I'm like, wow, like 18 year old Zoe would look at me and be like, why does she get free PR boxes?
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She doesn't need it.
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I could have used those PR boxes to eat you know, you know, the money doesn't buy happiness and that's the thing I try to get across through my channels.
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a lot, you know, but it does buy, not struggle.
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And that first step of not struggling it's like, okay, you know, it's like a lot of people that are struggling.
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Then they can't pay their insurance for their car and the next thing you know, you get pulled over.
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And then the next thing you know, your driver's license is taken.
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It's such a horrible system and people don't realize that they're like well, how do you?
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You know, it's like getting eking out of that system somehow is like the first step, like getting enough money to get that tool.
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And I just want to actually add this here the Stuart Butterfield, who founded a slack, he's a billionaire and he like weighed in on, like the effects of being a billionaire on his life and he like basically said just what I said.
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It's like money at first buys you the like you don't have to worry about bills anymore.
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That is like such an amazing step.
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Yeah, or the stress of like.
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I remember even I was like doing I was much in a much better spot, but like someone broke my like uh, you know five, six years after that, like someone broke my car window and it's like and they stole my backpack with my school, my, my homework in it.
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And.
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I'm like ah, like it's just like, you know, you have your, you have enough money for your bills, and you're so proud of yourself.
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But then, like, something like that comes up and you're like great, Now I'm like set behind again and it's like uh, money doesn't buy happiness.
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But like now, if something happens like that, I'm like, ah, damn, that sucks.
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But like we'll just deal with.
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Hire a repair person.
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Yeah yeah, fix it on site, cause you don't have the time.
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Yeah, but that stuff used to crush me, Like I would be just you know, and I would complain about it too and like cause it is like very valid to complain about things that suck?
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Yeah, Like totally.
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I mean, stuart Butterfield talks about the um, the value of not struggling, and then pass that folks, and this is a good uh delineation of the importance of money.
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It's like he said, the next impactful thing in his billionaire life was the fact that he went to a restaurant and didn't have to worry about what anything costs anymore, which is fun.
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I don't know if you grew up going to restaurants.
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We never could go to them as a kid.
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My parents.
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I almost said the my address of my home because my, my dad, would always be like.
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It's a address, a Mozart restaurant, you know like so they'd be like we're eating at home.
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It's the restaurant at home.
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You know, cause I we'd always want to even just like McDonald's and it's like nope, we're eating at home.
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Yeah, no same same with us, you know.
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And so now I thoroughly enjoy every time I get to go out to you know, and that's the thing, underdogs too.
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It's like you might, you'd be like, oh, I don't have this, I don't have that.
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It's like when you turn the key on your brand new car, you enjoy it exponentially more than other people.
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When your windshield breaks, you know, and you have the money to pay it.
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You enjoy it exponentially more than other people when you can buy your own meal and you can have the steak and you can have the lobster at the same time.
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It's like you're going to enjoy it exponentially more.
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And the third item he said is like taking vacations and not worry about the cost.
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That was the impact of a billion dollars, yeah.
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Well, yeah, and I would add to that the not being able to take care of yourself is really great, but then being able to take care of others is even better, like being able to, like, buy someone else that meal, like I think you saw my post on Instagram where it was, uh, I wrote like a letter to myself.
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It's that trend.
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Yeah.
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And um, it was just like talking about like I wouldn't go to things because I don't want to show up and not get coffee because it's embarrassing, like I can't afford it and I don't want anyone else to pay for me, like I don't want anyone to like feel bad or whatever.
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And so in the post I wrote like don't worry, I'll buy yours too.
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And like being able to like help other people through that and supply jobs.
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I've I've helped some of my like just really hardworking friends who deserve to make a lot of money, given them opportunities to get jobs, and like that is even way better than even just being able to like support yourself, you know that's why we need more under dogs making it to success.
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If you watch my show, you know exactly that's what the premise is.
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That's why I spend my time on this podcast for charity.
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You know because I believe the same way.
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It's like success has an obligation and kindhearted people brought to success change things that they, you know, value.
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You and I felt struggle, so we would like to make struggle easier on other people.
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Right and that's why we have to get to our success.
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What was your like journey from like giving plasma to now?
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Like I know that you're doing amazing and you have your own company, you know, and like I've seen the clients that you're working with and things like that, walk me through a little bit of that so the audience can kind of tell your path.
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Yeah, it was honestly like just a little step forward.
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Every single like moment I could get one.
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And also, it was, um, I see a lot of people struggle who won't stoop down, you know, and I was willing to like stoop below, you know, which is like such an interesting concept, but like I got and the mindset was like a huge part of it.
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So during the plasma donating phase I was really, really negative.
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I remember being like, why would anyone hire me?
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I don't have the my best experience.
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I remember being like, why would anyone hire me?
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I don't have the my best experience I have was caddying and carrying golf clubs, like that doesn't translate to anything and like all like I was.
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Just my thought process was so negative.
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Yeah, and uh, I don't know how I thought about this or thought of it, or I think I actually read, like it's so cliche, but I think I read the secret.
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Oh, okay.
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It's like your thoughts are everything.
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And so I started writing down my thoughts and like seeing tangibly how negative they were, and so I would actually like write down, like, oh, I can't like, why would anyone hire me?
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And I would scratch it out and I would write like I am so capable of learning things, I'm passionate, I'm a pleasure to be around.
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Anyone would like love to, just like I.
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I, I will learn, I will listen, I will work hard and I w I just like did that and and um, I did it for months and months and I eventually trained my brain and and like I'll come back to this too when I'm in like a negative, like I see myself going into negative thought patterns, and I swear that like that exercise got me to the next step of simply just being going to interviews and being more like confident.
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And so I ended up getting a job at planet fitness and Culver's the food place.
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At the same time my schedule.
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I was so tired.
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My schedule was horrible.
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It was like 6 am to 2 pm.
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I would take the bus to Planet Fitness 6 am 2 pm, work, take the bus straight to Culver's down on the other side of town and work till 1 am, when we close the kitchen, and then just do it again and like every once in a while I would only have one of the jobs.
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But, um, I ended up I I was always wanting to be like healthy and fit and stuff, but I thought I would love working at planet fitness.
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But I actually enjoyed working at Culver's even more, which is a fast food place, and it was.
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It is one of those things where you you don't want to stoop below your that, your level or whatever but it was so fun and I learned so much and I actually worked in the kitchen and I my, I, my job was literally to dress the buns and like I would, you know, do work in the kitchen and it.
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I thought it was so fun to like be efficient and like you have like all these people waiting and they're waiting on efficient and like you have like all these people waiting and they're waiting on you and like they're happy eating your food and you're working as a team because I'm making the the, the buns, he's making the uh burger, he's over there on the grill Like and you it's like uh, you really have to work and then it's busy and so you have to cut all the ingredients and make sure you're prepared for the next busy time.
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And like I didn't think I would, really I didn't know I would learn anything from working fast food, you know.
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Gosh, there's like 47 things that I could unpack there that would be so beneficial to my audience, but it's funny Anytime I'm run across an underdog.
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I was a two job always person too.
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You know it's like and anytime I ran across an underdog, that's what we dug did to dig out of the hole.
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You know I make training videos around this stuff too.
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It's like my first training video says you're going to hate this task, go out and get two jobs.
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Yeah, I mean cause, look what it taught you above everything else, you know.
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And you don't like, even if you don't think you're going to like it.
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And, honestly, some of the people I think some of the underdogs are actually the ones who who are willing to do it, but the ones that are like just right above the underdogs, who have kind of like a plan B you know, where they can like, stay at home until they find something.
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They want.
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They're not as willing to like, do that.
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You're probably dead right.
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And I.
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Those are some of the people I see struggle, even maybe more than some of the underdogs in in you're right, no choice is good yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so, like I never had, like I didn't have a choice, you know, so it was like I could just stay in that like negative mindset and just stay where I wanted, or stay where I was, or like just accept something to get you ahead, you know.
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Yes and that, like I'm constantly telling underdogs, there actually is huge advantages to it, and I get a lot of hate for it because I actually think underdogs are more prepared and the ability to overcome adversity is proven to be the number one success trait.
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It's like the two jobs like I'm already seeing, as you're talking about loving the like, expiration of the bun and stuff like that.
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I'm positive you brought that into your business Everything.
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Yeah, you know it's like we don't know it's like my worst job.
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I was like, uh, I took what I thought was below, you know, because I had some success early in life with the sales job and stuff, and so then I had to backpedal because we were homeless.
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You know, I just had to take what I could get.
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I ended up working at this country club which I absolutely hated.
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I hated it with a passion, Like they treated me so poorly.
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That's so crazy.
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We have the same thing.
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Cause I did I.
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My first job was a caddy when.
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I was 13 and I would carry golf clubs.
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But did you like it?
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I actually you know what I hated about it?
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Huh, um, I was so uncomfortable uncomfortable around wealthy people but, it taught me a lot.
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Like I just sat there and I observed and I was terrified, though I was like, please, nobody asked me where I'm from, please, like I don't know how to communicate with these people, cause I literally don't know what words, what these like the words are.
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I don't understand, it's a different language.
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Yeah.
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And it was so uncomfortable.
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Gosh, it's so like, the similarities are so like, but you know, I remember like somebody asked me what my dad did.
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You know, because when you're young, they always ask what your parents did.
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And so my dad was a professional freestyle skier but he was also in jail for dealing drugs and um, at that moment, you know.
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And so they asked me what my dad did.
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I'm like, oh, he was professional freestyle skier and I didn't want to go into the second part, obviously.
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And so then they're like, what's his name?
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And then they Google him right there and then the only thing that comes up is this FBI thing, you know is like and like to your point.
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It's like you're always afraid about talking about where you're from, you know, but what it taught me and what I tell underdogs all the time, it taught me the normalcy of rich people seeing it possible.
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I call it because they were no smarter, they weren't harder working, you know.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yes, that's actually the the thing that I see, and I actually see this in business a lot, because maybe we'll get to like what I do today.
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But like what got rid of my imposter syndrome in business was seeing all these founders just like making dumb mistakes and I'm like this is actually so inspiring because if I know how to fix this, and they're coming to me and like they're so successful, like multimillionaires, but they're like a shit show behind the scenes, like it's so motivating Nobody's better than you.
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I can do it.
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Yeah, nobody's better than you, and that, like that's why.
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Another thing in that video that I'm talking about, I said go get a job around rich people Cause.
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I do have a little chip on my shoulder about it too, because they didn't treat me fair.
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You know, it's like I was a valet in the morning, starting at four o'clock in the afternoon and then at one o'clock I would transition over to bartending until 10 o'clock at night and I was going to school full time too, and it's like they didn't treat me right.
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But like my and like this is something employer you to think about is like my revenge in that moment.
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And some people were just like, oh, I'm going to get that guy's car as slow as possible.
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You know it was like screw him.
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I did the opposite.
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I was like, sir, you've never seen somebody hit my get your car so fast.
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I sprinted a huge parking lot at 140 degrees here.
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Killed them with kindness.
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I absolutely did and that was my revenge because I brought that work ethic into my businesses.
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Yeah, right, and then that like it was one of the biggest gifts, even though I hated it so much, you know in so many ways, and it's it's so fun to hear like you bolster every single thing that I like talk to underdogs about.
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Yeah, and then there's like there's a couple different things about surrounding yourself with, like wealthy people.
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Uh, it's that of like you kind of just like get exposed to it but then also, yeah, you desensitize to it.
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But then you also, once you get to like not when I was 13 and a caddy until 13 through 16 years old like I couldn't.
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Maybe I wasn't going to meet anyone like to give me an opportunity.
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But who knows?
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But like now, um, and in these last you know years, like eight years to 10 years uh, surrounding yourself with wealthy people gives you opportunity.
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Like it gives you it like you if you're a pleasant person and you ask them questions.
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And like you're, they're willing to talk like that A lot of them, especially if they started as under're.
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They're willing to talk like that A lot of them, especially if they started as underdogs.
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They're willing to help too.
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Yeah.
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And so you surround yourself with them and they you always hear people say is like surround yourself with who you want to be, um, and you also get to pick what you like and what you don't like about, like how they treat people.
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I agree a hundred percent.
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It's like the parallels are astounding between, um, you and I on that.
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So get me to the plasma.
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After giving plasma, um, let's go into like how did working plasma to working in a hamburger stand parlay into like what was next?
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Yeah.